Beyond the Signboard with Amy Bennett

Jodie Hedley-Ward on Mastering Real Estate and Empowering Women

Amy Bennett Season 1 Episode 3

Have you ever wondered what it takes to transition from the high-stakes world of fashion marketing to topping the charts in real estate? Join me, Amy Bennett, as I share an invigorating conversation with the formidable Jodie Hedley-Ward. From her eclectic career that spans business conferences to fashion marketing, and her eventual rise in the real estate sector, Jodie has a tale that will both educate and inspire. We delve into her story, unpacking how she skillfully harnessed her diverse skill set to become not only the Sunshine Coast Corporate Business Woman of the Year but also a top figure within the McGrath Network.

The real estate industry often appears wrapped in glitz and glamour, maskings its true depth and the dedication it demands. As Jodie and I dissect, you'll discover that this world is about more than just buying and selling property; it's about community, strategy, and genuine service. Prepare to have your preconceptions of real estate shattered as we discuss the misconceptions and the unvarnished truths of what it takes to succeed. The episode also spotlights our personal commitment to community service, including our team's initiative to support local charities, emphasizing how integral giving back is to our professional ethos.

Finally, we address a significant facet of the real estate industry that deserves more limelight: the empowerment of women. Jodie and I explore the mentorship dynamic, the impact of real estate on family life, and the importance of financial literacy. Through candid discussions, we aim to empower not just women in real estate but anyone with aspirations that reach beyond their immediate horizon. 

Listen as we also touch on life's simple joys and my anticipation for a dream trip to Uluru, reminding listeners that life and career success can harmoniously coexist with personal passions and adventure.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Beyond the Syme Board, where you get the opportunity to learn all there is to know about your real estate journey from professionals who are passionate about property. I'm Amy Bennett, your host, and I look forward to providing you with education, inspiration and a behind the scenes look at the world of real estate. Well, mrs Jody Hadley Ward, welcome to Beyond the Syme Board. Thank you, amy, great to be here. I am so excited. It's been on my vision board to have you sitting across from me for this podcast since the idea came into my mind. So we're going to have a really exciting conversation. We're going to talk about our shared journey, our shared passion, obsession for our industry and then, yeah, we're going to get a little bit deep into a little bit more about your journey very much your passion for the team. We're going to dispel a little bit of myths and misconceptions about our industry. Yeah, we'll let the audience enjoy.

Speaker 1:

So, jody, before we get deep into it, I would just love to share a few of your accolades. So I know this is not in your wheelhouse, but I've worked alongside you for seven years and I've seen you win countless awards. Some of them really stand out to me. So you were awarded the Sunshine Coast Corporate Business Woman of the Year. You've won some amazing results in our McGraw Network, so in the top 10 females across our whole network and you were the number one female agent in McGraw for Queensland. So whilst I know that's very much not why you do what you do, I think it's really important to acknowledge that and also for me to be really grateful to have such an amazing mentor.

Speaker 2:

Thanks.

Speaker 1:

Amy, my pleasure. So, jody, before we get into real estate, it's really important for our audience to understand how you got to be here. Would you just be able to share us through your career journey?

Speaker 2:

Sure, I didn't start in real estate until my mid 30s, so there was quite a bit of time prior to that. I finished my business degree in New Zealand and pretty much took off straight away to Hong Kong, where I ended up producing business conferences, of all things, and, most importantly, met my husband, david, who is, as you know, the principal of our offices. So that was an exciting year, and from there Dave and I lived in the UK for a number of years and I landed my dream job, working in the women's fashion industry. It was actually for a mail order catalogue, which you know that really doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing, isn't it to think, With the catalogs, were they sent out to people? Did peoplehow did that work?

Speaker 2:

Look there were. We had a huge call centre that sort of fed off around 20 catalogs a year. So we had the standard women's wear catalogue. It was all sort of Italian fashion. And when I came on board they wanted somebody to spearhead the marketing and research side for a plus size sister catalogue. Now we don't call it plus size now, but at that time it was quite. You know, it was quite an advanced sort of concept that they were doing and I was so passionate about it because I'd actually done research on the fashion industry as part of my thesis at university. So it was, yeah, some great years, really enjoyed what I was doing there. They have photo shoots, still doing photo shoots now.

Speaker 1:

It's just that they're houses Lot of transferable skills.

Speaker 2:

It was exactly. I was doing a lot of copywriting, which obviously we do in real estate, and just really connecting with people and working with a large team of around 66 people, and the majority of them were all female. And you look at what we've got today across the two offices, we've got close to 30 team members and all but two of them are female.

Speaker 1:

So, oh look, it's a funny thing, isn't it? So many people comment on that. I guess it's all we've ever known, isn't it? That is a funny thing. But so from fashion to real estate, how did you get there?

Speaker 2:

So look in between, in between times I got pregnant with my daughter Lily, went home to New Zealand, had Lily and then Josh and David, and I decided New Zealand was a little chilly to raise kids so we made the move over to the Sunshine Coast and during that time, when I became a mum, I decided to fulfill one of my other goals, which was to become an author. I wanted to be a bestselling author. That was on my bucket list and I look, I did, which was a really exciting experience. It was three books or motherhood related, really about the emotional journey of being a mum which at that time was just wasn't written about. There really weren't the books. We have such incredible conversations of books and resources and podcasts around that now, but back in my day, we didn't.

Speaker 1:

It's amazing. So I guess that was you know, that courageous conversation, perhaps sharing with other mums. You know you obviously felt isolated or you knew that people weren't having the support that they needed. So I know with that journey it took you. I know the book's been written in publishing other languages. Was there a 60 Minutes article?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we were on 60. The book was on 60 Minutes. And then I ended up working with the University of the Sunshine Coast on a really large scale motherhood research study which was, yeah, thousands of mums were involved and that was across Australia and New Zealand and the US. So we were on 60 Minutes talking about that. So, look, it was a big part of my life at that time and you sort of think, gosh, how did I get from that to real estate? But, like you say, so many of the skills that I learned, I did a lot of public speaking as part of writing books. It sort of goes hand in hand. And all of all of that when I did eventually land in real estate with my husband, david, you know prodding yes you should do this.

Speaker 2:

You'd be great in real estate.

Speaker 1:

He was already in real estate, right, he was.

Speaker 2:

He was. So David started his journey with Bailey's real estate group in New Zealand, which he absolutely loved, and they weren't here in Australia when we moved, so it was a fantastic foundation for him and he had been, you know, trying to gently nudge me towards the industry for a long time and, you know, eventually I got brave enough really was a big thing for me. I was, I was scared of the idea of you know something new in this industry and having to negotiate and learn everything possible about houses and how they were built and building and pest inspections. I just thought, gosh, I don't know that I can do this, but eventually, or in a very short space of time, probably after my first six months, I just something sort of clicked and I realized that all of the jobs that I'd had prior to real estate, all of the skills and experiences had sort of led me perfectly to an industry that I was just felt absolutely in love with, and it's incredible because I think, in addition to all of those skills that you had, it's continual learning, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

That's you know? We just spoke about off air. Is that you know, 15 years down the track, there's still. You know, no two homes are the same. You know it. Always, every day is a new day, which is, I think, what we both really enjoy and like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I just never thought there'd be something where I would be challenged and excited and this passionate about for such a long period of time and honestly, you know it must be at least 15 years now since I started Amy and I. Every year I'm like I'm as excited as I've ever been. I'm more passionate. There's something else to learn every day. You never stop learning and, like you say, it is new homes, but probably even more Importantly, it's different people. And for me and I know it's the same for you, you know, when you're selling, it's the journey with people taking them from A to B, trying to help them get there in the smoothest, most stress-free way, and, I guess, feeling like you're really making a difference in someone's life. There's just no better feeling on earth than that.

Speaker 1:

I think, yeah, we were both probably destined to be able to be those people to help people guide through. And I know you say stress-free, which is often difficult, but we like the term stress less, don't we? And really helping, we try, yeah, we try our best, so we've got you into real estate. You're now a principal of seven years here, nearly actually eight.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we just celebrated eight years with McGraw, which is so exciting.

Speaker 1:

Seven years with me here. So what was your inspiration to join the McGraw business?

Speaker 2:

Well, great question, because we mentioned manifesting off air earlier. And, honestly, it started probably 20 years ago when Dave and I were back in New Zealand and Dave found the book of John McGraw, wrote you ink, yes, said you've got to read this. I love books, I love anything. You know personal development and we devoured John's book. We just both clicked and resonated with it and one day David announced to me we will be working with this man in our future and that was it. We just both sort of knew that it was an inevitable and there was no McGraw in New Zealand at that time. But we just kept, you know, working on what we were doing. We moved to the Sunshine Coast. Eventually, after we'd been here for some time, mcgraw came to the Sunshine Coast and then, when the stars aligned, dave picked up the phone and Before I knew it, we were down at John McGraw's Office with his team high-fiving and going right. When do we open this office? Incredible. We never look back absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1:

It's John's a very special person to all of us and, and you know, has been doing incredible things since 1988. You were able to obtain him as a guest for an event that I Attended it and hosted, actually, and it was a real game changer for me and I think that's probably a real commonality is that shared values. You know, those things are really felt not just with our team but across the whole business, which is really exciting and very much where both of us feel destined to be, which is exciting. You mentioned there too, that you'd both read the book. A book's a big part of your journey.

Speaker 2:

I know you've written some, but also reading books huge part of my journey and I can't imagine that ever stopping. So, yes, we've got a library here at the office for everybody to you know. Just come and dip in and dip out and and get whatever it might be that they need at that time. So, yeah, books are Irring, you know, incredible and podcasts, and I just believe in topping up your tank Every single day with as much positivity and inspiration as you can, because in our industry there are challenges, there are tough days, and you know, and everybody's life, that that is life and you, I just try to balance that out with as much good stuff that makes you feel good.

Speaker 1:

So I think that's been something that I've really learned from you is also how much reading and absorbing personal Stories, books, everything how that has such a big impact in our careers as well. So thank you for that gift. Like you said, we've got lots of books in the library here, and sometimes you read the same book over and over. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you just have to trust your, your instincts and your intuition. Sometimes you just Drawn to something I'm rereading atomic habits, for example, at the moment which is just such an inspirational book and then practical as well. So you know, napoleon Hill think and grow rich a total classic. You could read that probably a million times. You'll. You'll pick something Incredible up every time you do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I'm always inspired every week when we have our weekly sales meeting. There's always an inspirational quote, something that always really resonates with with the team and also some good food for thought for us. Jodi, we're going to delve into a really special Program that we have here at McGraw, which is our community give back program. That's that's been part of your whole journey with McGraw and something that we're both super passionate about. I'd love you to share just a little bit of an insight into the program and maybe a special memory sure.

Speaker 2:

Well, amy, honestly, when I think about our community give back program, like, without doubt, you are the shining star that you've been with Dave and I since the inception and the beginning of that program. We all shared the same values at the beginning and I think you know, as our teams grow, and we still share those values now that in order to operate in business and the stay in age, you have to be an Incredible contributor to your community. I just you know, I just think I'd rather close the doors than do it any other way, like we have to. We have to be a role model and we have to inspire and create a ripple effect that hopefully other people will pick up on. So, yes, our community give back is something that was there from the very beginning, and one of the best memories that I have is when we celebrated our one hundred thousand dollar milestone huge was huge.

Speaker 2:

We had a much smaller team at the time. Amy, you organized that. You know the most beautiful event. We had the founder of orange sky laundry join us, who was one of our key Charities that we were dealing with at that time, along with gosh, probably a hundred plus other charities in our local area. But we, yeah, we had. We had speeches, we had contributions, we had tears, we had emotions with channel seven, I think cupcakes.

Speaker 1:

I think every everything it was really special. Yeah, we. We just spoke as well about how that program also brought other charities together, which was really special and probably unexpected. One thing I I think is really special is that for everybody's birthday, you allow the team members to choose an organization to receive, a community give back donation. So that's really special, isn't it? To get a bit of an insight into the team's passions and hobbies outside of work.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you know just getting back to orange sky is one example. So we have one of our sales team is deeply involved on a personal level in that and another team member is involved in a Charity that you know helps with our homeless or those sleeping rough at nights in our local community. So it extends way beyond the monetary contribution. I honestly think Giving money, if you have it, is actually quite easy, but it's so much more. We've been educating our community. We've been sharing the vision of our different charities to our whole community, sharing whatever needs they might have. At the time we'll send that out and just trying to act as a conduit, I guess in a channel for great things to flow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think it's probably something that just comes naturally to us. So I think that was just something we wanted to highlight, because we provide our office space to community groups and know the team does things like wishlist giving day or a gift wrapping. So it's really in our DNA is to give back, and I think that's probably a really unique point of difference. It's just second nature for us, but it's really nice for us to be able to share a little bit more about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and look, it just fuels our culture, doesn't it here in the office? And it's also from a recruitment perspective. It makes it really easy to just get the right people to join us and on our team, because either they have those aligned values and they have a true desire to give and to make a difference and make an impact, or they don't. So it's sort of an in or out for us, because there's not one person that works within our team that doesn't have a huge heart and genuinely care about the people we serve.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's such a magic. I guess it's probably an aura or an energy that people often comment on when they are in the office or they meet the team. We are really lucky, and that's why I wanted to take that extra bit of time, what I'd love you to share. You know, real estate's a very interesting industry. There's lots of myths and misconceptions, but I just wanted to ask what you would say is probably the number one that you have come across. Sure.

Speaker 2:

Look, I think that's an easy one for me, and it's actually speaking of easy. It's that people think it's easy what we do in our industry, that you know we get to drive a nice car and you know wear nice clothes and zip around and open the door at properties and suddenly there's a sold sticker. And what I love about your podcast and what you're doing, amy, is you are, you know, really taking a look behind the scenes and shining a light on the incredible group of people the network that we have around us to, you know, make it all possible, because you can't do it on your own as an agent.

Speaker 2:

You need incredible people, whether that's building a pest inspector's, mortgage brokers and your team lawyers.

Speaker 2:

You know conveyances, just people in your corner that are going to help your clients and get you to where you need to be. So you know, I think there's a lot of agents that maybe don't take it to the level that we do in terms of how much we deliver and we give. That's fine, but in order to be exceptional in our industry, there is a myriad of skills and you know, strategies and a work ethic that you need to really make it and become exceptional in our industry?

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and I think that's something that we are always identifying and refining and looking out. So what would you say to somebody that's potentially thinking about real estate It'd be awesome if there was anyone that's listening in or watching. Just give them a bit of an insight into. You know, I guess, what you're looking for in team members, but also, I guess, a bit of an insight into the reality of real estate, sure.

Speaker 2:

Look, I do meet with people almost every day who want to get into our industry and want to have a catch up in coffee, and I love to do that because I love to just have really honest chats with them and see if perhaps it is a fit for them and direct them on that path.

Speaker 2:

I think I would recommend, first and foremost, that they get their qualifications, that they get their salesperson certificate and they find out are they enjoying that for a starting point, because you really do need that in order to be of value to any office in our industry now. And secondly, for anyone wanting to be a sales agent, I would encourage them to get a foot in the door, just whether that's you know a front reception or you know an assistant, an administration, anything they can do like. Get a foot in the door because you'll get a feel for the pace, for the energy, for what we do, and it'll either be a yes or a no, because it's quite a unique industry. And from there, ideally, to get the best start, I would say try to work for a team, for a great agent and learn from them and contribute as much as you can and then step off. Obviously from that point would put you in a really good place for long-term success.

Speaker 1:

Amazing, such incredible advice and I think as well, there's just so many different roles, isn't there within the industry and even within an office, and various different skill sets and everything like that. I mean, certainly, my journey has been three different roles within the business and I think that's really wonderful. So ultimately it gives you a taste, but you also get to learn from other people as well and certainly hone your unique skill set, and really obviously that first listing presentation or first listing is pretty daunting. So if you've got that skill set, knowledge and confidence all of those things really help. So, Jodi, I'm really curious real estate's obviously been in your DNA in the last 15 years, but if you weren't a real estate professional, what would you be doing?

Speaker 2:

The two things spring to mind. Writing I still you know there may be another book in me yet that is definitely a passion, but otherwise I think I'd be painting and just trying my hand at art, which is completely random, I know, compared to real estate. But when I first met my husband one night out in Hong Kong and he asked me what I wanted to do with my life, I remember saying to him I just want to paint and make babies.

Speaker 1:

Wow, well, you've done one of those. I paint the babies. Are you painting? Do you do that as a hobby?

Speaker 2:

Look, the last attempt at painting that I've done was a paint and sip class with the property management team Awesome, and I had an absolute ball, and it did make me realise I need to get those paint brushes out. Good, it's been too long.

Speaker 1:

I think it's a really. I mean, my grandma was a prolific artist and she would always say you know, it's important to have those creative outlets, to stop and smell the roses and to enjoy. What kind of medium would you use or what would you like to paint?

Speaker 2:

I think I'd like to do large scale oils and just yeah, colorful abstract and just yeah, just sort of hit that canvas with whatever I've got.

Speaker 1:

Amazing, I love that. And the book. Do you have a sort of ambition of what the next book looks like?

Speaker 2:

Look, I think I've got about 10 real estate inspired books in me.

Speaker 1:

I think so.

Speaker 2:

We certainly. We see it all, we experience it all, and we have some incredible encounters along the journey, don't we?

Speaker 1:

But stories we could tell Stories we could tell.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Time will tell. Perfect, Look amazing to have those creative outlets. We will just shift gears a little bit. I'd love to give a little bit of an insight into Jodi outside of the real estate world. What would be your dream holiday destination?

Speaker 2:

Well, I am ticking one off my bucket list in a couple of months. So I've been wanting to go to Uluru and I'm off on a week long hiking trip with five girlfriends and I'm super excited, a little scared, I think I've not done anything like that before, but I just I love nature and I just think it's going to be a really sacred special holiday Amazing.

Speaker 1:

So I did joke and say to you before will you have your like B-suit or the fly proof hat? I think you need to have an all of the gear.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll have all the gear. I'm not organised yet, but I've got time.

Speaker 1:

That'll be amazing. And, uluru, they've got some beautiful. You can do the. Is it the dining under the stars?

Speaker 2:

and all of those special things. Yes, I am. I am on my final night.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful, so five days of hiking.

Speaker 2:

I think it was six days of hiking and then, yeah, we'll have our final night, a dining under the stars, and just be a magical way to end the trip Beautiful.

Speaker 1:

That sounds like a really inspirational goal. We both have spoken over the years about having those goals to look forward to, holidays, things to keep us centred what we were just talking about there at Uluru what kind of food and drink do you enjoy? I'm always intrigued by somebody's favourite meal.

Speaker 2:

Well, this may or may not surprise you, but of all the things that spring to mind, I just cannot walk past the sausage. I love it.

Speaker 1:

I love it Bunning sausage or gourmet.

Speaker 2:

I love them. I love a gourmet sausage of bunning sausage. I had a few years as a vegetarian as a teenager and that was the hardest thing that I had to give up at that time. Love a sausage and love a glass of bubbles.

Speaker 1:

Perfect. Well, I think Uluru will definitely have the bubbles, Maybe the sausage, maybe something a bit more fancy. Jodi, before we move to our final question, it would be remiss of me not to ask. I really wanted to delve into your leadership skills and really who you are as a person. I know that what you do is a really strong passion. We've journeyed through your career. There's been a lot of inspirational moments. You've been really led and really clear with what you wanted to do, but there's been a common theme really there. I guess probably you've moved to where you are now. You've manifested this component really empowering women, supporting, leading, Maybe being at the forefront. That's really what I've always picked up. You're not afraid to stand, even if it means standing alone, but very much inspiring other women. But what do you enjoy about leading a team?

Speaker 2:

The greatest joy that I now get, after many years of selling and building a team, is just seeing how real estate can change people's lives.

Speaker 2:

I am particularly I'm excited about empowering women in our industry, because I think it's just a fabulous industry for women to have families flexibility. As you know, we have so many women that are either pregnant or they've got families, or their grandmas or they're going to have families, and I love embracing that and helping them on that journey of balancing career and motherhood. And I also love having conversations with the women on our team about empowering them around conversations of money and wealth and just finance and being able to talk really confidently, calmly and intelligently. We're all upskilling in all those ways. As a team, we talk about it a lot, but just having being able to talk about money, career, ambition, the future and realizing that the only glass ceiling that exists in our industry, I believe, is in our own mind. Absolutely, it's in a glass ceiling because in reality, we are a phenomenal example of an industry where you can rise as big as your dreams will allow you. Absolutely. I have just absolute magic in that.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's something that you know it's a gift to share, isn't it? And I think that's probably a lot of the ethos of the podcast as well is to share like, yeah, absolutely, it's a hard you know hard industry to crack. It's a hard industry every day to show up and be our bright, bubbly selves, but I think what is possible I think that's a really great topic is that you know being able to balance it all. You know I'm a have fur babies, so I you know it's hard sometimes for me to understand, you know that you know juggling, and I think that's probably a really difficult thing that a lot of women feel that pressure to be everything to everybody. You have two amazing, I would say, children not children now, young adults, young adults, yeah, yes. So what was the kids take on your career? I know both you and Dave are in the industry, so I know that that's, you know, really hard sometimes to balance both. But what was the kids sort of experience.

Speaker 2:

Look I, I spoke to the kids, the children.

Speaker 1:

I know a little.

Speaker 2:

A lot when they were younger, because they were primary school age or, you know, even younger. When I started they were, you know, school concerts and they were birthday parties or sporting things on Saturdays and I was doing open homes. So it was really important to me that I let them know what I was doing and why I was doing it, and that it was because mum wanted to help, you know, create a great life for for us all and to allow them to have opportunities that we might not have been able to if I, you know, hadn't chosen this particular career. So I guess you never know until they get to the ages they are now they're, you know late teens and you know, starting to leave home.

Speaker 2:

It's only now that I see. Did you know was that a good strategy or not?

Speaker 2:

But my daughter, lily, is now working within McGraw and aspiring to be, you know, a sales associate on a great team and then a sales agent in her own right one day, which has been amazing for me because I didn't expect that. But she, I guess she saw that, no matter how busy I may have been and there may have been other mums that were home more often and at the school events more than me, I think I think both Lily and Josh have said to me that what came across to them was, whenever I came home, I was happy. Yeah, amazing I was. I was excited about my day.

Speaker 2:

I was you know I was upbeat, I wasn't dragging myself around, exhausted, going to a job that I didn't love.

Speaker 1:

What a great, what a great you know learning. Now for them to be able to articulate that and say that.

Speaker 2:

So I think, whatever you do in life it's, I guess the aim of the game is do something that you love and do it with passion, and you'll always be a good role model to your children or your fur babies.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think that's probably a good thing that we, you know, I think we really share that value. I know, you know we both sort of joke. You know there's so many, you know nights that we're both in our car. You know our little mobile officers, you know, parked down the street and you know a beautiful understanding husbands both of us, you know, waiting with dinner. That's getting, you know, colder and colder. But yeah, having that support is really important, isn't it? And I think also, that's, you know, probably something that I value most especially moving into sales, is having your support. There's never a moment where I can't reach out, and I think being able to offer that to a team member is such an incredible gift. Obviously, the children or young adults feel that as well. So let's wrap up with a nice sort of warm and fuzzy ending, because I know this is probably the question that we could talk about forever. But what is your favorite quote or saying?

Speaker 2:

Gosh and I had, I had two to share with you.

Speaker 1:

I thought you'd have 10.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, I've got a million. Yeah, I had two top ones, and one of them's completely escaped me, but, as you know, I basically changed my wallpaper on my phone every day with a new quote, depending on what I'm feeling and what I'm needing and what I've just found.

Speaker 2:

But, just, I guess something that grounds me and that I try to share with the team or when I'm, you know, mentoring and assisting the team is just a simple one is better today than we were yesterday. Absolutely, there's small incremental changes. Don't get overwhelmed by all the things we could be doing and I should have done this and, oh, my goodness, I forgot to do that. It's just. Are we a little bit better today than we were yesterday? Are we? Are we bringing more this week than we were last week? And I just feel like, if you're moving in that positive trajectory and you're striving, then you simply can't go wrong. Absolutely, and I've just remembered it. Good, thank you. The last one that I know you hear me say all the time. But if you have a bad day and just things are getting on top of you and I certainly have those, like everybody else, I just ground myself by waking up and just going. How can I be of service today?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, and you know, let go of all expectations, like go of outcomes, that go of results, and just show up with an attitude of what can I do for that someone else today, how can I be of service and and, with no expectation of anything in return, and I just feel like suddenly something shifts and the magic starts to happen again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's. It's an incredible, I guess, mantra to live in life, and and we, you know one that we very much share is just being of service, and I think you know that that's very much at the heart of what our industry is really listening to our clients, what is it that they need us to do? Being able to do that and, again, just extending and opening our heart. You know there's a, there's a lot of people that need that. You know we're certainly working with people at a really vulnerable time.

Speaker 1:

I think that's probably a another misconception, isn't it that selling a home is such a glamorous experience and it's, you know, it's fluffing cushions and you know all of that jazz, but very much, you know, there's generally a motivating factor. That's not, that's not, you know, not often a good thing. So I think that's something that you know we, we very much come in, you know, whether it be Various hats that we wear, but very much just, I guess, taking control of the Situation, helping people, steering the ship you know it's very much a captain's role, isn't it? How do we get to the destination? And, as I said, as stress, less as possible. Beautifully said, beautiful. Well, jodi, we could talk forever. I know there was so many topics there that I was itching to get a little bit Deeper in and I'm hoping to have you back in the future on the podcast. But from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for being a part. It's, you know, very brave and courageous to jump on, but that is absolutely the heart and soul of who you are.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you for being you and what you're doing here, sharing with the world what goes on behind the scenes. And, like I said, you are absolutely just the beacon of light and when I think of you know the best of what we do, that being of service that Community give back that we've done so well for so many years. I I see your face shiny back at me. So, thank you, amy, thanks Jodi.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to Beyond the signboard, where you get the opportunity to learn all there is to know about your real estate journey from professionals who are passionate about property. I'm Amy Bennett, your host, and I look forward to providing you with education, inspiration and a behind the scenes look at the world of real estate.